East Georgia Paranormal

[SCOOBYDOO-BOO]

Yes---I was, am and always will be an X-Files fanatic BUT these "MIB's" intrigue me. They are always described in a creepy manner---one person saying as the car drove up next to them, one of them had a very disturbing "Chesire cat grin" and didn't look human.

Here's Wikipedia's take on MIB's:

MEN IN BLACK




The term Men in Black (MIB), in popular culture, is used in UFO conspiracy theories to describe men dressed in black suits, sometimes with glowing eyes or other monstrous features, claiming to be government agents who attempt to harass or threaten UFO witnesses into silence. "All MIB are not necessarily garbed in dark suits," writes American writer Jerome Clark. "The term is a generic one, used to refer to any unusual, threatening or strangely behaved individual whose appearance on the scene can be linked in some fashion with a UFO sighting." [1]

The phenomenon was initially and most frequently reported in the 1950s and 1960s; it is contemporaneous with many other conspiracy theories. The MIB supposedly intimidated a reporter in Pinewood, West Virginia to stop making articles in newspapers about the MIB's presence in Pinewood. Pinewood was near the area where alleged sightings of a creature dubbed the Mothman were popular in the late 1960s, which make some people believe that the MIB are linked with the Mothman.

The term has also been adopted as a tongue-in-cheek term in geek culture for any generic suited government/corporate official. This usage has its roots in both the popularity of shows such as The X-Files and UFO culture among geeks, and the "threat" to hackers of Men in Black actually coming for them (in the form of the FBI or other cybercrime institutions). As geek culture frequently finds itself in opposition to the "real world" of responsibility, the term is also something of a metaphor for the impending grip of adulthood.

Existence

The actual existence of Men in Black is the subject of much debate. Testimony of supposed witnesses is typically the only evidence presented in alleged Men in Black encounters and eyewitness testimony — however compelling it might seem — can be notoriously unreliable. (Indeed, one could argue that the involvement of Men in Black is often used as an excuse for lack of evidence in certain alleged UFO encounters, but it is unclear how often this has actually been the case).

Some versions of the Men in Black conspiracy theory have led to the belief that the odd mannerisms and dress of the Men in Black are due to the fact that they are aliens or alien-human hybrids, and that their job is to eliminate physical evidence of alien involvement on earth. Others believe that they are actual government agents who intentionally dress and act ridiculously, in an attempt to get UFO witnesses to discredit themselves if they ever report such an encounter.

Physical description

Aside from the archetypal black suits, sunglasses and hats, Men in Black are often described by alleged witnesses as wearing clothing either radically out of style or not yet in style. Their rarely-seen eyes are described as either slanted and vaguely Asian or "popping" as if from a thyroid condition. They also are described as having very long fingers. Their voices are invariably described as "electronic," with no discernible accent. They also seem to drive antique black Cadillacs that seem and smell brand new.[2]

Behavior

Men in Black always seem to have detailed information on the persons they contact, as if the individual had been under surveillance for a prolonged amount of time. They will also seemingly be confused by the nature of everyday items, such as pens, eating utensils or food, and use outdated slang. The behavior of Men in Black wildly varies from individual to individual, however. They will either act as if they are from an agency trying to collect data about the unexplained phenomena their subject has seen, or they seem to be trying to suppress information, trying to convince their subject the phenomena never existed. They will sometimes behave exceedingly furtive or be completely outgoing, with wide grins and disconcerting giggles.

Possible explanations:


Psychological explanations

Men in Black accounts often feature "High Strangeness" or the "Oz Factor" (the latter term coined by ufologist Jenny Randles). Both terms are used to describe a strange sensation of "otherness," or of a dreamlike dissociation that accompanies some UFO reports. Such reports have led to speculation that Men in Black accounts are not part of any objective reality, but are best explained as altered states of consciousness, such as fantasy-prone personalities, sleep paralysis, hypnagogic states, and the like.

In support of this hypothesis, Dash cites research by ufologist Nigel Watson, which suggests that many Men in Black witnesses "are often undergoing some sort of mental upheaval at the time of their encounter." (Dash, 162) Furthermore, Dash also cites work by folklorist Peter Rojcewicz "who himself encountered a possible MIB in his university library after entering what appears to have been an altered state of consciousness." (Dash, 416) See above for an account of Rojcewicz’s encounter.

Folkloric explanations

Although the phenomenon was initially and most frequently reported in the 1950s and 1960s, some researchers — John Keel and others — have suggested similarities between Men in Black reports and earlier demonic accounts. Rojcewicz noted that many Men in Black accounts parallel tales of people encountering the devil: Neither Men in Black nor the devil are quite human, and witnesses often discover this fact midway through an encounter. The meaning of this parallel, however, has been the subject of debate.

Alien Explanations

Some UFO cases claim that these entities are aliens themselves. See the MAAR, other websites below and go to www.ufocasebook.com/SEARCH: Men In Black.

Military/CIA explanations

More prosaically, Clark cites Bill Moore, who asserts that "the Men in Black are really government people in disguise ... members of a rather bizarre unit of Air Force Intelligence known currently as the Air Force Special Activities Center (AFSAC) ... As of 1991, the AFSAC, headquartered in Fort Belvoir, Virginia," and "under the operational authority of Air Force Intelligence Command centered at Kelly Air Force Base in Texas." (Clark, 321–22) Curiously, Moore also reports that AFSAC was inspired by the tales of Men in Black from the 1950s, and had nothing to do with those early accounts.

Similarly, Clark notes that Dr Michael D. Swords has suggested, in an admittedly speculative manner, that the Barker/Bender Men in Black case (occurring shortly after the CIA-directed Robertson Panel issued its recommendations to spy on civilian UFO groups) might have been a psychological warfare experiment.

Individuals who may be considered a risk to national security based on loose conversation or publishing information after being 'read-in' to or 'read-out' of a special access program are sometimes visited by 'men in suits' according to an unnamed source at AFFTC Det 3. These 'men' are very much human but can bring a tremendous amount of pressure to conform to the terms of the signed disclosure restriction statement due to the authority they have from an undisclosed federal agency.

Hoax explanation

In his article, "Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker," John C. Sherwood reveals that at age eighteen, he collaborated with Gray Barker to create a hoax about what Barker called "blackmen," three mysterious UFO inhabitants who silenced Sherwood's pseudonymous identity, "Dr. Richard H. Pratt."[3]

Notes

1. ^ Clark, Jerome (1996). The UFO Encyclopedia, volume 3: High Strangeness, UFO’s from 1960 through 1979. Omnigraphis. 317-18.
2. ^ a b Template:Cite title=The Big Book of Conspiracies pp122-123
3. ^ Sherwood, John C.. Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker. Skeptical Inquirer. Retrieved on 2006-10-10.
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"This house is clear." ---Tangina in Poltergeist

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[SCOOBYDOO-BOO]

Some more MIB info----

http://www.zerotime.com/ufo/mib.htm

Introduction:

# Encounters with Men in Black, (MIB) revolve completely around UFO and alien sightings. Thousand of everyday people worldwide have had experiences with MIB's after witnessing UFO related events since the beginning of history. There have been possible occurrences of MIB's going back in history to Abraham in the Bible. Many Catholic saints wrote of experiences involving strange visitors after seeing angels in the sky. The men in black that are most common to us began visiting people in 1947. This is also around the same time that the UFO explosion began in America. The mysterious men in black have not change their appearance or intentions since the 1950's.

Description:

# Dressed always in black suits, black shoes, black string ties,
and white shirts.
# A black hat or a black turtleneck is sometimes worn.
# Some also carry a black brief case which they never put down.
# Thin Blond hair or completely bald.
# Age estimated somewhere between 40 and 55+ years old.
# Pale skin color. High cheekbones. Cut facial features.
# Height reports vary between 6 foot and 6'9".
# Weight; thin, weak build, 140 to 160 pounds.
MIB's usually travel in groups of three. However, groups of four, two and one have been reported. They have passed as repairmen, door-to-door sales people and representatives of the U.S. Air Force. (The Air Force denies involvement in any of the MIB cases) (AHA! repairmen! Now I know why that freaky guy from Sears couldn't fix the dryer!)

MIB's Transportation:

Men in black drive large, expensive black cars. The cars sometimes have unusual logos on the doors or windshield. Every license plate recorded has been untraceable. The men in black have been seen driving at night with headlights turned off and strange glowing lights inside the car. In some rare cases the men in black have also used black helicopters. (I wonder if anyone has seen them driving black Hummers!)

Late Night Phone Calls:

Bizarre phone calls before MIB visitations are common. Strange dull voices claiming to be from (non-existing) UFO organizations asking questions about what the witness saw. Most of the time the questions are followed by a warning not to talk to anyone about what they witnessed. Abnormal noises can be heard in the background of the caller. The noises vary in tone when certain subjects or words are mentioned, like "UFO".

Contact:

The men in black are sometimes called the "Silencers". Their objectives seem to be:

# Find out how much the witness knows or has seen.
# Confiscate any and all physical evidence that might have been left behind.
# Warn witnesses directly not to talk to anyone and not to speak about their meeting.
# In some cases the witness is threatened with harm against them or their family.

MIB Presence:

There are reported side effects that take place during a MIB encounter. Witnesses have reported feeling uncontrollable fear and being dizzy and nauseous. In some cases witnesses account that being in the presence of a MIB is like being near pure evil. These effects seem to aid the silencing process.

Defense against MIB's:

When confronted by MIB's try to stay under control. When they ask questions answer them and then ask your own questions. Ask about them, or how to contact them later. Always smile and laugh. Act like their presence has no effect on you. Of course that sounds easy, but no one has ever been able to do it. (o.k...I'd tell them if they were gonna prank call me so late at night at least they could come deliver some pizza!)

Targets for MIB contact:

Anyone that has a UFO or UFO related experience can be visited by MIB's. Past reports include ex-air force pilots, employees of NASA, and hundred of people that have seen or photographed something strange in the sky. MIB's have also been spotted in many different places including the lobby of the U.S. State Department. (hahahaha---I thought those were sheiks from Saudi Arabia in the lobby!)
_________________
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
---Edgar Allan Poe

"This house is clear." ---Tangina in Poltergeist

"I have exorcised the demons!" ---Jim Carey as Ace Ventura

[Bobbysuniverse]

So are we saying that "MIB" are alien here?

I can see the existence of MIB as being real but not as some kind of inhuman creature. My take on MIB. if they exist, would be members of a Government agency. Kinda like the CIA or even part of the CIA or NSA. Another group of spooks hired to keep government secrets. And to me that is all well and good there are some secrets that the govt should keep. Because contrary to the Ditech.com commercial people are not smart... As a whole they are stupid.. LOL

[SCOOBYDOO-BOO]

HAHAHAHA! a lot of people are stupid---I agree. I don't think all of this area 51 crap should be top secret & all---it's wrong, if they have proof, NOT to tell the American people.

I'm not sure if I think MIBS are inhuman---some proposed they are a hybrid, which I think is weird. I think maybe they are alien and checking to see what we know about them. The nasty demeanor does sound very government-like though!
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"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
---Edgar Allan Poe

"This house is clear." ---Tangina in Poltergeist

"I have exorcised the demons!" ---Jim Carey as Ace Ventura

[ghosthunterdoc]

Got to go with Bobby here. The whole idea of hybrid human / aliens is just a bit farfetched. I, simply, don't buy it and never will. I also agree that there are some secrets best kept secret. Could you imagine the reaction that most folks would have to finding out that we have, indeed, been in contact with aliens and that the stories of abductions were true? Even if the stories of alien crafts at Area 51 are complete bunk (which I believe they are); I, for one, wouldn't want all of our military technology secrets out for all the world to see. Sometimes it's kinda good to know that you have a surprise ace up your sleeve. Do I believe in the possibility of UFO's? Sure. Why would I want to limit the power of God by saying that He created only one world with intelligent life? But that's about where my belief ends. I don't buy into the whole "abduction" thing although some of the reports are, at least, interesting. If these "beings" are so much more advanced than us; why would they care about our reproductive systems or anything else? According to what I've read from the so called "experts" on this subject; man would be primitive, at best, in comparison. That being said; why would they want to inbreed with an inferior being? To learn our "secrets?" What kind of secrets could an inferior specie have that would even remotely interest them? Maybe there's a mad rush on their planet to find out just how many licks it really takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Not to mention that I could never understand why they would want to mutilate cattle of all things. For medical experiments? I'm assuming that their innards are probably nothing like Ol' Bessie the milk cow. So; what could they learn from that? I don't believe that our government has ever been in cohoots with aliens or that we've gotten military, medical, or any other technology from them. Do I believe that it's possible that intelligent life forms from other planets have visited earth? I think if it's possible for us to send men to the moon; it's possible for another intelligent life form to send their folks to earth but I don't believe that they're travelling here like Earth is just another bus stop.

[Bobbysuniverse]

I have a bit of a different view here than Doc, If we are being visited, and the abductions are real. I think it is more of a research assignment. I mean why not? We humans as the superior intelligence on this planet are always dissecting and experimenting with animals, birds, and fish..A pregnancy test used to require the use of a rabbits ovaries. So why would a superior being not do the same types of things to us?

...Just a thought

[ghosthunterdoc]

I think Bobby's idea is possible but I still tend to lean toward the not likely side. Supposedly these critters have been watching us for a long time. I'm just asking; "why?" That's what makes no sense to me. There is no doubt that their physiology differs from ours so, again, "why?" If I were to subscribe to any ideology it would be that of humans being used as lab rats and I don't buy that. Never have and never will. I, personally, hold the human specie at a higher level than that of a lab rat for any galactic science class.

[cowgirl]

I gotta say that MIB's are human. As for experimenting on us....who knows? I'd rather talk to those who have had experiences with that before I form a conclusion. TV show's can put a spin on what these people say. That's why I'd like to meet them for myself.

[SCOOBYDOO-BOO]

So what about all those anal probes?









_________________
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
---Edgar Allan Poe

"This house is clear." ---Tangina in Poltergeist

"I have exorcised the demons!" ---Jim Carey as Ace Ventura

[cowgirl]

OMG...I'm gonna leave that one alone!

[SCOOBYDOO-BOO]

HAHAHAHAHA---it just snuck in my head---sorry!
_________________
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
---Edgar Allan Poe

"This house is clear." ---Tangina in Poltergeist

"I have exorcised the demons!" ---Jim Carey as Ace Ventura

[Bobbysuniverse]

Open oraface, perfect place to hide things, ask any drug smuggler or prisioner.

[veeraley]

How many alien aircraft sighting reports will it take to convince some people about UFO's? Iraq was invaded and destroyed for allegedly developing nuclear arms and nearly the entire world believed it. None was found. Now it is said that UFO's exist and they have pictures and videos to prove it. And some people find THIS hard to believe.
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