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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik Mesoy wrote:
Hi there. I represent the local chaos enforcement. It's very much like the law enforcement in that I pretty much have the power to edit your posts as I see fit. Also I'm the one who added most of the smilies here.

Welcome to the forum, anyhow.

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I exist?

Really?

Wow, news to me.




<.<


Is that you, Lander-sama?



Quite possible. I've used that as a backup nick several times.
Also, your nick looks familiar.

Where would I know you from?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samalander wrote:
Erik Mesoy wrote:

Is that you, Lander-sama?


Quite possible. I've used that as a backup nick several times.
Also, your nick looks familiar.

Where would I know you from?

Nightstar IRC? A bloke called Samalander used to run #egs before leaving it to Necomancer.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'd be Samalander. ^.^

This group was origionally a patchwork of players who all wanted to game but none of them could make the required gametime.

As for IP tracking... that's going to be a problem. AFAICT, that's pretty much how PHPBBs work, isn't it? Which means Nightstar would have the exact same problem? Troubling.

What does it take to have an international tunnel? Can such things be Arranged by others, or is it a huge headache?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do circumventors like www.owlheart.com and www.sourmind.com do anything about that?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do circumventors like www.owlheart.com and www.sourmind.com do anything about that?


His ISP randomly changes his IP every couple of minutes. As long as those allow sessions to continue regardless of IP, they might help.

I'm sure jerith is not the only person in ZA to encounter this problem. There might be a solution or workaround in existence already.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not an IP changing randomly every few minutes, it's every request going through a randomly chosen proxy server. There are ways around it: tunneling to a proxy in another country, hitting submit multiple times (10-20) until I get two consecutive posts from the same IP, etc. All of them are tedious and inconvenient.

It's not a standard feature -- if it exists at all, it's optional. As a security feature, it's supposed to stop session hijacking or something, but it doesn't really work. It's also done for load balancing if you need a single forum hosted on several machines -- the incoming IP (as opposed to the session id) is used to load-balance between a bunch of forum servers.

There aren't that many places that do the IP tracking thing. There are better solutions for pretty much everything it's useful for, but they tend to be more difficult and/or expensive.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted a query on the support boards. They might know something.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any luck?
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Nobody has answered yet.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The admin says they'll ignore the last octet in phpBB 3. We can theoretically apply to upgrade our forum, but for that, we need our forum admin's password. Which we don't have, since our forum admin has been AWOL for a long, long time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we change admins?
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, hm, I don't think so. What I could do, with administrative powers, is change The Arbiter's forum password, and puppet his account for the move. There are a few problems with that, however:
- that's unethical,
- and also bastardly,
- and risky, being probably illegal in the face of the forum rules somehow.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, especially so since you've mentioned it here in the open for all, even the unregistered to see.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are our chances of tracking down The Arbiter and convincing/coercing him to give up some authority or else come back and post?

Also, what was the result of trying the proxies/circumventors? I might have a few more tricks up my sleeve depending on how those worked.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attilla wrote:
Well, especially so since you've mentioned it here in the open for all, even the unregistered to see.


Which part of my post indicated that I might be the least inclined to do it? Razz

Erik Mesoy wrote:
What are our chances of tracking down The Arbiter and convincing/coercing him to give up some authority or else come back and post?


I'm bothering him by email. This is unlikely to work. I also have his meatspace address, somewhere, from the time when he had to use it to register the d20rpgs.net domain. I specifically remember putting it in a text file, but I forget where I put it. The information might still be in the DNS databanks, for all I know.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I can imagine you tracking him down physically, knocking on a door somewhere and shouting "Oy, you! Hand over your admin password!"
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"... who are you and how did you find my house, you crazy freak?"

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll go check my 20+ archival CDs.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOUND!

I have his full name, home address, email and phone number.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's kind of creepy, AD.

I like the way you think.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's moments like this that make obsessive archiving worthwhile.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AbuDhabi wrote:
It's moments like this that make obsessive archiving worthwhile.


Absolutely Agreed
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, uh, any luck with the newfound spy intel? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First we need to establish who's going to send him a letter?
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would happily do so, except that he'd have no idea who I am? Ditto phonecall.

(Which country, idly?)
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